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Monday, June 15, 2009

Infor puts Softbrands shareholders out of their misery

To which, the collective world of ERP pundits said, huh?

Softbrands, holders of the Fourth Shift manufacturing product who pinned their entire future business plan on plugging into SAP (and maybe one day being bought by them), decided to sell out to Infor and its Daddy Warbucks Golden Gate Capital, for $0.90 a share, or about $80 million. Well, $41.2 million anyway - the rest goes to paying off debt and preferred shareholders. It's still a nice premium over the $0.47 closing price last Thursday before the deal was announced, as SoftBrands CEO Randy Tofteland helpfully noted: "This transaction allows SoftBrands stockholders to realize significant value from their investment in our company over recent trading levels."

He then continued, "In addition, we increase value to customers through expanded products and services from the alliance with Infor."

Yeah, right. Longtime readers of this blog know what that means.

The 451 Group's China Martens (subscription only) ran down the interesting history of Softbrands, some of which was new to even your humble Graveyard blogger:

SoftBrands has a somewhat complicated history. Fourth Shift Corp was founded in 1984 and was acquired for $40m in cash in 2001 by AremisSoft, a public company that had already bought some hospitality software vendors. AremisSoft started to crumble amid class-action lawsuits and allegations of fraud later that year. SoftBrands came into being at the end of 2001 as a wholly owned AremisSoft subsidiary housing the manufacturing and hospitality products. AremisSoft filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection in March 2002 and SoftBrands emerged as an independent entity after the reorganization. It raised $20m in external funding before going public in 2005. SoftBrands also made a number of purchases including Medallion, Infra Business Solutions and Hotel Information Systems.
The one thing everyone seems to agree on is that Fourth Shift's special arrangement with SAP is unlikely to survive the new Infor owners. Seeing as how they stopped selling the non-SAP flavor Fourth Shift completely some time ago, it's hard to see how Infor is going to do anything with the Fourth Shift product but dig a hole and throw it in.

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Wednesday, January 21, 2009

what, Craig Conway wasn't available?

So, Thomas Kelly is out as Epicor CEO, after a less-than-successful standoff with a determined acquirer. And like Peoplesoft founder Dave Duffield, former Epicor boss George Klaus has stepped back in as president, CEO, chairman, and whatever else.

Will he be able to push through a sale with dignity? EPIC hasn't improved much since bottoming out at $3 after the November post below. Man, that $9.50 offer from October must be sounding pretty good.

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Saturday, November 22, 2008

Epicor update: Elliott decides to wait for after-Christmas sale

Apparently with EPIC stock hovering around $3, the private equity group hovering over the battered company has decided that its offer of $7.50, down from $9.50, might be a little rich.

Managing Automation reports that with the broader markets in the toilet, Elliott was able to pull out thanks to an "out" in their offer tied to any of the major indices going losing 10%. As anyone who's had the courage to open their 401(k) statements lately knows, that hasn't been a problem.

But speculation is that they'll be back in January, when proxy season heats up, and they can nominate new directors who might be inclined to consider a new offer. Should we start a pool here to predict the new offer? Betting closes January 15. And if Elliott asks, I'd be honored to serve as a director myself :)

Disclosure: I am the CEO of a competitor to Epicor, whose open source ERP solution is doing quite well.

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

you blog died. 3 months and no post. weak.

3:14 PM  
Blogger Ned Lilly, xTuple said...

your spell grammer bad. weaker.

But thanks for letting me know that my Jan 21 post was eaten by Blogger. Fixed.

3:30 PM  

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Wednesday, November 05, 2008

From bad to worse for Epicor

A couple of updates from Managing Automation on the Elliott Associates private equity takeover bid for Epicor:

First, Elliott lowered its bid by $2/share. That's almost $120MM that EPIC shareholders won't see.

Second, MA's source "revealed that at least two other potential buyers have privately expressed interest in Epicor, and said both are software companies in the same Tier 2 space as Epicor and similar in size to the ERP vendor."

Hmm.... anyone want to speculate? Infor is too big, QAD is too small ... but Consona (M2M, Intuitive, etc.) might be just right. Who's the other one? Epicor has sales of $485MM (ttm).

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

I guess QAD. They are almost $300M, that's pretty close. Hard to imagine that QAD, on their own, could make such an assimilation, but if they have the money, now is the time.

3:03 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Consona makes sense from a go-to-market strategy standpoint. They have a direct sales force and have gotten rid of all their resellers. However, from a product standpoint, would it make sense to add another product that would compete against their own line? M2M and Intuitive already compete against Epicor's manufacturing suite. So I am going nix that idea, sorry. Instead, I am going to go out on a limb and say Sage. When I look at Sage, they will quitely wish they had a direct sales force and a manufacturing suite that could actually compete. To say that 500 actually competes in the MFG space is a joke. I guess that leaves the question of Adonix, but who knows where that is going. With $1.01 billion in sales, Sage is in the right place to make the step into selling that big juicy brisket of a solution: Epicor 9.

10:50 PM  
Blogger Ned Lilly, xTuple said...

Interesting thought on Sage. They're obviously bigger than the leaker's quote would suggest, but it could certainly fit into their organization. They haven't done US acquisitions in a while, but in Europe they've been much more focused on niche buys of customer bases - not so much product or technology, it seems to me. So that would be a bit of a cultural shift, but not a major one (like it would be for QAD, who seems to prefer more organic growth).

I would agree with the general argument against Consona, but hey, you could say the same thing about Infor - and Consona, like Infor, is driven by bankers who don't seem to care about product overlap.

8:13 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So your source(s) said that company was the same, almost exact, size as Epicor? If that is the case, that sort of limits who it could be. Personally, I think that Sage is in the "same space" as Epicor and in the grand scheme of things fits into the same revenue category as Epicor. I, of course, make up the categories in my head and they range from $480 million to $1.01 billion. Perfect.

Infor is experiencing a lot of issues with their overlap and the recent layoffs might suggest that there is inherent inefficiencies in the "buy now, worry later" philosophy.

8:30 AM  
Blogger Ned Lilly, xTuple said...

That's what the Managing Automation source said. Who knows?

Re: Infor, that was kind of my point. If I were feeling uncharitable, I might say that these deals are driven by front-end fee-takers, who don't care much about operational issues that turn up later ;-)

11:02 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

IMO an acquisition outlay of $675m+ would be too much for QAD.

I would also add that the 'leak' stating other interested parties being those of a similar size to Epicor maybe a red herring.

My two cents is on Infor being a prime candidate and M2M also being another.

Outside bet; Lawson? They've probably had sufficient time to settle down following the Intentia transaction. This would arm them with a set of tools to dip down further into the SME space.

5:15 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

10% lay offs globally per epicor human resources... i know cause i was.

10:05 AM  
Anonymous Mike at ASN said...

Had no idea this ERP issue was going on so heavily.

1:40 PM  

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Friday, October 03, 2008

Epicor on the blocks

Update 10/14: Epicor has rejected the offer of $9.50 per share. The stock opened at $6.61 today. Paging Carl Icahn...

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Well, many months later, but a similar story to the Golden Gate-Exact rumor below is unfolding. First noted by the research firm 451 Group (subscription only) a week ago, the hedge fund Elliott Associates bought a 10% stake in Epicor, and was making noises about forcing a sale. 451 took a dim few of the chances of such a sale to the likely strategic suspects (Microsoft, Oracle, SAP), and noted that "private equity-backed ERP rollups – which would have trouble digesting an acquisition the size of Epicor, in any case – have been sidelined recently."

Seems that Elliott has come to a similar conclusion, as they're now making an offer for the whole enchilada. Hope they're serious about being a "long-term player" because as 451 observed, it's hard to see a logical flip buyer anytime in the medium-term future.

But hey, maintenance revenues are up (as a percentage of revenue and earnings - WARNING, WARNING!) - so maybe they can just give the cow a good milking for a number of years, everybody can make some nice fees on the deal, and heck with the customers. Sorry, did that sound cynical?

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Blogger Mark at Force 9 Business Solutions said...

My company is a UK ERP reseller. We spent a year selecting Epicor after our primary product MAX (which I see you have, on your gravestone!) was "sunsetted" by SSA. Our clients are naturally worried that any new ERP system will go the same way.

One of the main reasons we chose Epicor is Vantage's architecture. It was rewritten in the slack period when ERP sales slumped after Y2K.

Epicor was very astute: they used SOA, so Vantage is inherently 100% SOA compliant. Unlike other ERP players, Epicor does not need to introduce inefficient and error-prone layers of software to achieve SOA compliance.

We'd prefer Epicor to remain independent, naturally. But even if Epicor were acquired, be it by a hedge fund or ERP company, they'd be very unlikely to sunset Vantage!

And unlike MAX, Vantage has enough usesr to sustain its on-going development.

PS: MAX is still developed by its Czech distributor, sold and supported in Russia and Central and Eastern Europe.

7:02 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I could take MANMAN and run circles around most of what's out there in the marketplace today for a lot less money. MANMAN died because CA didn't know how to manage it after purching ASK Computer Systems. They were not familiar with a user group as active or passionate as the ASK user group was, nor did they understand the manufacturing environment very well.

You can also add Carly Fiona wanting to buy Compaq instead of advancing the HP3000 platform into the 21st century as a factor too. If MANMAN had a decent 'windows' GUI and a platform to run on, I think you'd still see it today.

In 1992 I could take any customer requirement, schedule change or forecast, and blow it down to the man-minute labor level in 20 minutes or less. I was a single person IT shop in a $55 million dollar tier 1 automotive supplier with an annual dept budget of under $400,000 and an inventory accuracy of 99.8 percent.

MANMAN worked because it didn't try to be an ERP package, it was successful at being the best MRPII offering.

10:32 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Epicor sucks!

http://www.epicorwarning.com/

3:10 AM  

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